Legislature(1997 - 1998)

04/30/1998 02:12 PM Senate TRA

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     CSHB 343(TRA) - DEFINITION OF COMMERCIAL MOTOR VEHICLE                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE GARY DAVIS, sponsor of HB 343, explained the bill               
exempts an operator of a commercial vehicle, who is relocating the             
vehicle from the principal place of business to a job site within              
a 150 mile radius, from the commercial driver's license                        
requirement.  Federal law does not require operators of off road               
vehicles, not being used for a transportation purpose, to have a               
commercial driver's license;  Representative Davis believed this               
provision was inadvertently omitted from state statute.  The focus             
of the bill is narrow as it only applies to operators of loaders,              
motor graders, paving machines, and any vehicle over 16,000 pounds.            
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD agreed with Representative Davis' purpose, but                 
questioned how HB 343 will apply to a company that contracts to                
pave an unconnected road more than 150 miles away, such as the                 
Naknek-King Salmon Road.  He also asked if DOTPF supports the bill.            
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS said DOTPF supports the bill.                             
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD asked if DOTPF would support the bill without the              
150 mile radius limit or with that limit if connected by road.                 
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS thought Senator Halford's point about remote              
sites was well taken and should be given consideration.  He                    
discussed another scenario that would not be covered by HB 343, in             
which a company might barge equipment to Seward from Southeast and             
then transport the equipment by road.  He repeated this bill is                
very narrow in its focus.                                                      
                                                                               
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SENATOR HALFORD asked what DOTPF's position has been, and what the             
federal law requires.  He questioned whether the owner's principal             
place of business could be changed to the community where the job              
site is located.                                                               
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS said the federal regulations used by the state            
to establish its statute related to requirements for commercial                
drivers licenses.  The federal law required that commercial drivers            
license regulations address the issue of an operator's job function            
rather than job title.                                                         
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD moved to change the phrase "owner's principal place            
of business" to "owner's principal job office" to specify the                  
office of a particular project.                                                
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN suggested leaving the existing language as is but                
adding the words, "or project office."                                         
                                                                               
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REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS stated his agreement with the proposed                    
amendment.                                                                     
                                                                               
VICE-CHAIR WILKEN noted without objection, the proposed amendment              
was adopted.                                                                   
                                                                               
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BARBARA HUFF-TUCKNESS, representing Teamsters Local 959, made the              
following comments in opposition to HB 343 via teleconference. If              
HB 343 applied to individuals qualified to drive particular types              
of equipment over 26,000 pounds, the Teamsters would not oppose                
this bill.  The Teamsters' concern is that many of its workers are             
required to possess a commercial drivers license (CDL) for several             
purposes.  A CDL requires a driver to be trained to operate a                  
particular piece of equipment under certain conditions and to know             
the permitting process.  The fact that HB 343 will not require an              
operator driving a vehicle weighing over 26,000 pounds to have a               
CDL does not preclude the requirement for a temporary permit in the            
movement of commercial vehicles on a public highway.  Second, the              
Teamsters Local 959 represents members who load and unload cargo at            
the Port of Anchorage.  Various types of equipment move in and out             
of the shipyards quickly to enable the barges to get back on the               
waterways.  All Teamsters in that area are required to have a CDL              
even though there is a public highway between the Sealand and Tote             
(ph) yards and the ship area.   The Teamsters believe that operator            
standards should be required for safety reasons because a lot of               
public traffic will be using that area.  Current regulation allows             
for "incidental" movement without a CDL, which has been interpreted            
by the Teamsters to mean crossing a public roadway by happen chance            
but not actually putting a vehicle right in the midst of a public              
roadway. MS. HUFF-TUCKNESS repeated that operators need to meet                
certain standards in order to ensure the protection of the public.             
                                                                               
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REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS advised that most of the Teamsters' concerns              
have been taken care of.  Regarding operations around ports,                   
federal regulations indicate that the exclusions in HB 343 are not             
allowable when commercial vehicles are moved in the furtherance of             
a transportation purpose, therefore operators of large loaders                 
unloading cargo from ships would not be exempted from the CDL                  
requirement.  He suggested if HB 343 is amended to include the same            
transportation purpose, a definition will need to be included.                 
Representative Davis explained nothing in HB 343 releases the                  
permitting requirement for over width or overweight vehicles                   
traveling on the highways.  Those vehicles will need a permit as               
well as pilot vehicles and proper flagging equipment.  Regarding               
the safety concerns expressed by Ms. Huff-Tuckness, drivers taking             
the CDL test drive trucks when being tested, not specialized                   
equipment.  No part of the CDL test requires the applicant to show             
proficiency in operating this type of equipment.  The problem of               
crossing traffic does count: an operator crossing the highway from             
one gravel pit to another could be stopped by a police officer and             
ticketed for not having a CDL; HB 343 is intended to correct that              
situation.  The 150 mile limit is arbitrary and was plagiarized                
from the agricultural vehicle regulations; it was included so that             
some restrictions would apply.                                                 
                                                                               
VICE-CHAIR WILKEN asked Ms. Hensley if deleting the 150 mile radius            
provision will conflict with federal regulations.                              
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD thought that question was resolved by adding the               
job office language.   He explained to Ms. Hensley that phrase was             
added to cover the movement of vehicles barged to remote projects.             
                                                                               
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JUANITA HENSLEY, Chief of the Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV),                
Department of Administration, replied from a safety standpoint,                
driving special mobile equipment on public highways will create a              
danger but from a driver licensing standpoint, the provision will              
not conflict with the federal Driver License Act.  She added an                
applicant for a CDL must meet a minimum age requirement.  She noted            
the 150 mile radius provision also raises safety concerns.                     
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD responded his concern was not with the 150 mile                
limit, it was with the principal office.                                       
                                                                               
VICE-CHAIR WILKEN noted by the definition of special mobile                    
equipment under Title 13, one could not drive any of those vehicles            
very far.                                                                      
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD stated the equipment cannot be designed for                    
transportation of passengers or property on a highway, therefore               
one can assume this equipment cannot be licensed for highway use.              
                                                                               
MS. HENSLEY indicated the equipment is not safe for regular travel             
on the roadway because of weight and safety concerns.                          
                                                                               
VICE-CHAIR WILKEN stated page 2 of the sponsor statement contains              
a list of the kinds of special mobile equipment.                               
                                                                               
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REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS stated the purpose of the permitting process              
is to address safety concerns to the extent possible.                          
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD pointed out three or four bills in the Legislature             
deal with motor vehicle issues: the definition of commercial motor             
vehicles; power units; trailers; and weight limitations.  Some of              
the legislation amends other legislation in the process.  He                   
questioned whether the order of action on the bills will have the              
affect of repealing the first bills signed by the Governor.                    
                                                                               
REPRESENTATIVE DAVIS replied he ran into that problem when drafting            
this legislation and attempted to use language in this bill                    
consistent with that used by DMV.                                              
                                                                               
SENATOR GREEN clarified that the order in which the bills are                  
transmitted to the Governor is the key to whether the provisions of            
any of the bills will negate the others.                                       
                                                                               
SENATOR HALFORD asked the sponsor to check the other pieces of                 
legislation to determine whether the bill will require a floor                 
amendment.                                                                     
                                                                               
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SENATOR GREEN moved SCSCSHB 343(TRA) from committee with individual            
recommendations.  There being no objection, the motion carried.                

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